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Or in fact, all the lightbulbs

Don't get me wrong, I like energy saver globes where appropriate, but I can't read by them, the light isn't good enough. And before you suggest putting in a brighter globe, when I moved in here we discovered that putting 100w globes inbew them within minutes, the wiring isn't designed for it.

So I use a mixture of energy saving and incandescents. I don't think that being forced to change to something which will require me somehow - lack of powerpoints plus load on any one powerpoint being a factor - to plug in another appliance seems somewhat counter productive to me.

*grumble*

If they imrpove the technology and/or take into account these not so little issues then maybe it would be more practical.

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Date: 2007-02-20 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeduna.livejournal.com
also, how do you cope with the light fittings that wont take them, etc.

i think its a cheap attempt to pretend to give a fuck.

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Date: 2007-02-20 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lirion.livejournal.com
Don't take them in what fashion? - am fairly sure they are available in both screw and thingy - wahtsit, the name for the other type of fitting?

I think implementation has not been thought out as yet. Particualrly given they seem to be wnating ti do it on a tighter time scale than the California legislation it's based off.

Cheap maybe not the word - going to cost some light companies a lot of money... And a fuckload of inconvenience.

I do approve of encouraging their use, but they aren't always the viable option.

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Date: 2007-02-20 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeduna.livejournal.com
We've got some fittings where the longer globes won't fit under the cover...

Cheap = cheap publicity for the Hypnotoad, without actually having to do anything because everyone will go "what, no, that's dumb"

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Date: 2007-02-20 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lirion.livejournal.com
ah yeah, I've had to pull the covers off the fittings where I use them I must admit.

There is that. But if everyone says it's dumb isn't that counterproductive?

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Date: 2007-02-20 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeduna.livejournal.com
"oh, look, we tried to help this climate change thing by being active about reducing emissions, and look what happened - all the industry bodies and the electorate complained. I guess they don't really want anything done about it at all"

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Date: 2007-02-20 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lirion.livejournal.com
Whoops, it apepars my cynicism switch slipped into 'off' mode in teh heat - I wasn't thinking about it like that :(

I'd prefer to see them introduce compulsory use of green electricity for a designatred percentage of every household's power bill or some sort of equivalent there.

I'd have at least waited to see how it was going in the pilot before trying to replicate it.

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Date: 2007-02-20 12:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] damien-wise.livejournal.com
Can you honestly see people going along with that? They won't even agree with saving power by using energy-efficient appliances or, for example, energy-efficient light-globes.
Same story with water-usage (I have to admit that I take much shorter showers these days and have a bucket on the bottom of the bath, but I'm still yet to changing to a flow-restricted shower-rose).

Yes, residential usage is not the full picture and industry has to change as well...but burying your head in the sand and refusing to do anything "because industry doesn't" is a huge cop-out. It's easier to spout conspiracy theories and crank-up the air-conditioner. *sigh*

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Date: 2007-02-20 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lirion.livejournal.com
This is the problem - it needs to be compulsory, and it needs to be across the board. personally I'm of the opinion industry should have to use 100% green energy but I know that's unrealistic - I'm also not even sure how much green energy is produced and whether that is feasible. But if we can roll out a compulsory change in which lightbulbs everyone uses... Admittedly one that won't affect industry because they all use nasty nasty fluros anyway :(

I've got sod all water pressure in my flat at the best of times - shared water meter I think is the issue - a water saving shower hea would reduce it to a trickle I fear (side note).

I do take your point but I still think that the green energy switch would be more effective, but that's too much like actual hard work for the government to put in.

Oh trust me I know, I used to work for the department that got all the complaints about it and refusing to do anything because industry didn't blah blah, blah blah, *sigh*

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Date: 2007-02-21 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benji-w.livejournal.com
100% green energy _definitely_ not possible at this stage.

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Date: 2007-02-21 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lirion.livejournal.com
Is what I thought - we don't have the infrastructure to support it for starters. But I can dream...

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Date: 2007-02-20 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lirion.livejournal.com
It's a plan not based in reality... I'm curious as to what it's a smokescreen for this time though.

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